same with barack obama and same with bill clinton. they've not been against gay marriage until the day before yesterday, they've been for it and afraid to speak about it. on the other hand, better late than never. i think with rob portman and a few republicans who have come out of it, come out on the issue now, it reflects more of an actual change in conscience. probably some lag of the actual change in view. but you know, their views are changing on the subject. >> joy, i thought it was actually a pretty remarkable that when john boehner was asked about this very question, and i think privately we sometimes publicly think boehner is more of a moderate than he actually acts, than his legislative record would show. i want to play the sound of him being asked about it this sunday. let's take a listen. >> can you imagine yourself in a situation where you reversed your decision as portman has, on gay marriage if a child of yours or someone you live told you they were gay? >> i believe that marriage is the union of one man and one woman. i